Thu, 03 Dec 98, Reader writes:
I have been in Christian deliverance for 20 years and offer several insights that contradict your postings.
1. Not all spirits are heaven bound. Earth is a test site where only the most fitted qualify for further action. Evil, and those who possess it are considered "flawed" and unfit for use.
2. Earth was never intended, by the Creator, to be inhabited by evil. As a Christian who experiences all the paranormal phenomena listed in the New Testament [i.e. speaking in many languages I did not learn, glimpsing both the future and the past I have not lived in, hearing people think (at times), seeing visions, having out of body experiences, having received supernatural, spiritual understanding through meditation, being taught by the Holy Spirit about evil spirits modus operandi, and having been given other gifts described in the texts by faith in their truths] I have come to understand that the Creator made mankind to be perfect in spirit, soul and body. Our sojourn on earth is a testing ground for future work elsewhere. Evil was never intended to enter man.
3. Mankind was to be a beautiful example for all other creatures, and eventually will be. God is love, and He made mankind in His image. When He banished evil from His presence, they starved for his love. Stealing it from man is their only sourse of nourishment! Only those humans who learn to keep their love throughout this trial will win the right to move on into God's perfection elsewhere. That is why forgiveness is so important.
4. I have pre-conception memories of being a spirit without soul or body. I remember looking down on earth's blue mass, seeing all it's times of history as if looking at the globe's time divisions, and choosing not only the time in history to which I desired to be born, but the parents I wanted to be given life through!
Those are earned as merit badges only by spirits who are determined and desire to lead future worlds. Those spirits alone will find the truth earth holds.
5. I know where reincarnated spirits come from and how they operate from the scriptures. I also know how to get rid of them, permanently. Dabbling with spirits is not a game and it can cost human's their lives and spirits. During unauthorized Out of Body excursions, alien spirits can inhabit a human body and refuse to let the human spirit re-enter! That is why it is so important to be submissive to the Holy Spirit of God, who is given to guide humans through the maze of spirits surrounding him on earth.
I'm only to glad to share what I know in an open forum like this. The Bible is very interesting reading from a UFO standpoint. I believe that is what Ezekiel saw... a "wheel within a wheel within a wheel." I'd sure hate to have the US government, or anybody else, for that matter, shoot down Michael the Archangel of God! [Just a little UFO humor there, Lord!]
Fri, 11 Dec 98, Otherplane's reply to reader:
How can we possibly argue and or relate about something if we are wearing the same uniform. The differences is not what we believe, it's the way we believe. Questions based on readers inquiries are passed to "our friend" who then provides the information, which are then passed on to the reader. We cannot possibly know all the questions to ask. There are times when the answers are so mind boggling and hard to comprehend, that we ask the same question in a different way and always, the answer will be the same. The proof is so overwhelming that it cannot possibly a coincidence. And the big difference between you and we is, that we ask and pursue the question where you do not. You merely rely on "faith". Faith to a book written and speculated by men of long time ago, was sanitized and scrutinized by more men over a thousand years. Then the intellectual men decided to give a new meaning and interpretation to a verse in the book so he could start his own denomination.
Yes, we are all in hell. It's not how bad you are because that's only in the eyes of the society that we belong to. In some other society, it's acceptable. If you want a safe passage to heaven, it's not because of salvation, it is because you BELIEVE! It does not matter what you believe and that's what's important. That's the reason why religious people will not use logic against the book. They were told just "BELIEVE."
Mon, 14 Dec 98, Reader writes:
No argument intended. I know that many denominations were begun from differences of opinion, but that isn't supposed to be so in Christiandom. I thought more like you before I received what the scriptures call "the infilling of the Holy Spirit," in 1979. Even though I asked God to take me further into the truths of Christ than ever before, this was a scary step! I had to basically unlearn what I knew and forfeit it for greater revelations of truth than I had known possible.
What was strange to me then is normal now. And surprisingly, I question everything! Funny thing is, I get answers! Perhaps not right away, but I always get them! And when they come, I'm usually not even thinking about the specific question I've asked! I'm usually washing dishes or sweeping!
And I don't ask easy stuff, either. I ask for scientific or historic proof! I sometimes ask for three or even six proofs from His Word to confirm something that is revealed from it, so I don't get off base with misquided beliefs, as some have based entire denominations on. For instance, when I was first baptized in the Holy Spirit and began this new walk, I needed to get free of many bad habits and addictions I had accumulated, things like cursing, anger, bitterness, hatred, etc. It took 2.5 years to get clean from all the things that had plagued my life, some steming from incest by my older brother, some from the mental disabilities of my WWII PTSS father and my manipulative mother. I drank a quart a day of Southern Comfort and was a mess! I lived so far back in the woods, there was no person to help. All I had was God and the Bible, and that was enough.
I learned to hear the heart beat of God out there. I'd ask him questions and he's answer me. It's no more strange than my talking to you on the computer screen in my room!
I am not in hell, here. I am in "boot camp" for an assignment I will only get when my body falls off in death. I'm not afraid of it, but I know I have many things yet to learn. As far as I'm concerned, faith is a tangible thing in the other dimension, the spirit. It is, as the Bible says, "the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen." I had to understand that everything that appears is first made from spiritual materials before it becomes evident in the flesh.
God has given me specific answers to questions ranging from the psycho-galvic connection to pre-physics insights into the string-theory of creation. It's all in the book if we will look for it and ask God how it works. No one person will ever have all God's knowledge, but it's not because it isn't available to us here and now. It's because we don't bother... enough.
If you don't believe me, so as I did, and ask him to give you his best. And then brace for a big surprise. But first look up all the scriptures about the Holy Spirit, our Comforter, the Spirit of Truth so you'll know what you're getting into. It is he who was given by God through Jesus to guide us through our earth journey. And he makes even the trials wonderous: that statement comes from one healed of cancer, delivered from demon spirits, delivered from alcohol addiction, and who, by faith, successfully sued one of the largest hospitals in this state without the help of an attorney in three lower courts and with an attorney in Federal court and won them all, even after my attorney quit. God gives us grace, weapons, and foreknowledge.
I'd rather be me now than anyone I've ever met, though I'm far from perfect in the flesh. My spirit's in the right place. And I didn't get that way through religion. I got it through a relationship with the master of all masters.
Read the last few verses of Isaiah and you'll find the true description of hell. Once you do, you'll know you aren't there and there is still time to find God's will for your life. It's in His Word, and though men wrote it down and interpreted it, God's spirit authored it and coded into it many messages for every generation to learn progressively who he is and what he wants of us. He wants us to love him! If we do that, all else is done, too.
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